When I was in jail the Governor said to me "I'm going to get you out of circulation and out of mainstream prison". I said to myself what does he mean? I did not know what he meant? So he put me with protection mainstream so I severely harmed a child molester and the Governor did it to me again. So I severely injured another child molester and they gave me 4 years. So I was in isolation for 4 years for underworld murders. I only knew Carl Williams.